And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. About a year ago, Rorrer told Myers about the investigation but said she had been framed. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. It seems so, according to you. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. Conflicting versions. We will automatically post your comment and a link to the news story to your Facebook timeline at the same time it is posted on MailOnline. He retired as a general foreman at Bethlehem Steel in 1981 after 30 years of employment. They are a joke. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). Your comment will be posted to MailOnline as usual. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! . Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. Hashtags such as #FreeTopG and references to Matrix opposition have flooded social media since the influencers arrest in December. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. By. Find lehighvalleylive.com on Facebook. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Have you read the book? But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! And Patricia wasnt all edges. A Patent Pending People Search Process. As Prince Harry says he felt like the film 'the boy in the bubble' before having therapy, who was 12-year-old David Vetter whose tragic story inspired the documentary? You can cancel at any time. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Locked up. Great catch. Dot Jost, Rorrer's next-door neighbor, had no idea what was going on, although she did see police cars in Rorrer's driveway from time to time. Everyone lies. Thank you and well said. Even though Joanne was supposed to take her mother-in-law for Christmas shopping, she never showed up. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they broke up in 1989. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. Please subscribe to keep reading. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. Chambers also didn't want to speak about her daughter. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. Their bodies were found nearly four months later. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. She took out the woman who replaced her. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. The influencers doctors have thus requested for Mr Tates release from prison so he can receive medical treatment in Dubai. Mary was born in August 1891, in Connecticut. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. 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Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. Did you personally attend the trial? Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! ", The much-faster-than-expected economic recovery thats followed the easing of the coronavirus pandemic has produced several encouraging develo. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. Rorrer was sentenced to two life sentences at the women's state prison in Muncy, Pennsylvania. An intensive search was launched, and family members distributed hundreds of missing-person flyers around Pennsylvania. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. On Wednesday morning, sheriff's deputies escorted Rorrer to meet with Fritz. Patricia is a evil monster. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. Police took a tearful Rorrer to the Davidson County Jail in Lexington. Andrew Katrinak. Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? Theres speculation and theres lies period. When the cheerleading coach broke the news to Katrina Kohel that she was the only one left on the cheer squad, Kohel was determined to compete anyway. The district attorney's office dismissed as offensiveNeely's implications on the evidence, according to the newspaper's report. And I have absolutely no sympathy. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Until next time, cheers. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. Myers knew little about Rorrer's troubles. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. How would an intruder find it? Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. Then you claim this is an opinion. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburgand High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when she was arrested in 1997. Facebook gives people the power. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Your email address will not be published. Very similar. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Stop. Omg so well put! A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Disclaimer: PeekYou is not a consumer reporting agency per the Fair Credit Reporting Act. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. Neighbors remember seeing her place the child on horses for short rides. Buckingham Palace and the Duke of York have been approached by MailOnline for comment. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background It seems so, according to you. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. All rights reserved. They added that the King is in disagreement with his brother and 'has told him straight, there is no chance of that happening'. . Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. ``She was mainly worried about her little girl,' Myers recalled. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church.